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Is the Gender Pay Gap Real?

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In which John examines the complex and tangled question of the gender wage gap, and looks at some of the reasons why women who work full time are paid less than men who work full time. Sources: The pay gap increases as workers age, and there is a pay gap across all education and experience levels and in almost all professions. Also, the pay gap is larger for women of color, across all education and experience levels: http://www.aauw.org/files/2015/02/The-Simple-Truth_Spring-2015.pdf The size of the gender pay gap depends on how you calculate it, but discrimination is a big factor in the pay gap: http://blog.dol.gov/2012/06/07/myth-busting-the-pay-gap/ and http://www.jec.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/9118a9ef-0771-4777-9c1f-8232fe70a45c/compendium---sans-appendix.pdf The gender wage gap for MBA graduates increases over time: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-20/the-real-cost-of-an-mba-is-different-for-men-and-women Women's pay goes down on average relative to men once there are kids in a family; men's pay goes up. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-the-gender-pay-gap/2014/07/25/9e5cff34-fcd5-11e3-8176-f2c941cf35f1_story.html A really interesting, nuanced interview with an economist who studies the gender pay gap: http://freakonomics.com/2016/01/07/the-true-story-of-the-gender-pay-gap-a-new-freakonomics-radio-podcast/ The wage gap won't close at this rate until 2056: http://www.iwpr.org/publications/pubs/the-gender-wage-gap-2012/ An analysis of the role race plays in the gender wage gap: http://www.aauw.org/research/the-simple-truth-about-the-gender-pay-gap/ The gender wage gap is 10 cents in New Zealand, and 37 cents in South Korea: http://www.oecd.org/gender/data/genderwagegap.htm The exhaustive and at times exhausting wikipedia article about the gender wage gap: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_pay_gap_in_the_United_States In the U.S. (and most countries), most unpaid work is done by women: http://www.oecd.org/gender/data/balancingpaidworkunpaidworkandleisure.htm There's a pay gap among librarians, and male librarians are disproportionately likely to become directors: http://lj.libraryjournal.com/2014/07/careers/payday-lj-salary-survey-2014/#_ and http://www.ala.org/research/librarystaffstats/diversity/libdirectors Great overall information (if a limited data set) from payscale: http://www.payscale.com/data-packages/gender-pay-gap/job-type ---- Subscribe to our newsletter! http://nerdfighteria.com/newsletter/ And join the community at http://nerdfighteria.com http://effyeahnerdfighters.com Help transcribe videos - http://nerdfighteria.info John's twitter - http://twitter.com/johngreen John's tumblr - http://fishingboatproceeds.tumblr.com Hank's twitter - http://twitter.com/hankgreen Hank's tumblr - http://edwardspoonhands.tumblr.com
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M Boss (13 hours ago)
He did not mention how more men are more likely to ask for raises and be more buddy buddy
M Boss (13 hours ago)
Even the wrong wage gaps u bought up can have something to do with what the woman want
M Boss (13 hours ago)
Nah we equal
Bennett [BLEEP] (20 hours ago)
The wage gap is simply the average earning of men and women working full time. It does not count for different job positions, hours worked, or different jobs. It has nothing to do with the same job. It has nothing to do with discrimination.
Nice video! I have a few questions though. The most interesting number is the 4-8 percent unexplained pay gap. I tried to find it in your sources. Your first source doesn't go anywhere, your second is inaccessible to me, the third takes me to 250 page document which I don't have the time to go through. Could you specify where this number is from. Your last source actually claim it is 2 percent. Another claim you make is that the unexplained pay gap is directly due to gender discrimination. Which of your sources claim this. It seems to me that a part of it could be attributed to other factors the study didn't take into account. It is good with sources but it would be appreciated if you where more clear on which statement comes from which source.
Simply Live (1 day ago)
Awesome! And of course, there is one other factor that the video didn't address.. why are jobs which are often more fulfilled by women, deemed to be not worthy of the higher level pays. Why, for example, is it deemed that a child-care worker or kinderten teacher, responsible for the care of our MOST critical part of of life, some of the lowest paid? Why are nurses, teachers, carers etc all deemed to be doing a job less valuable than many business people. It is our inherent bias that does not value the jobs and skill sets that (on average) many women may be more suited to, or prefered by, than men.
Kevin Odom (2 days ago)
A lot of reading on topic? Vox and hufington post? Show me actual evidence. Forgot to say how men are Much more willing to ask for raises. In my particular company woman are out at 40 hours on the dot while men stay much longer. Maybe it’s because they’re trying to avoid going home to wife. Lol
mejestic 12 (3 days ago)
Gender and racial pay gap in tech industry?? 🤪 Wow.. you mean all the commie feminist leftist big brother silicon valley tech industry?? But why?
Skankhunt 420 (4 days ago)
Asians make more than whites in America. Is America an Asian supremacist country where the whites are downtrodden?
Peter Almeida (6 days ago)
80% of women are mothers and 40% of men are fathers ... for that reason women will always do most of the unpaid work.
Ace Ventura (7 days ago)
I’d like to point out in your OCED report, it’s pretty bias. It measures leisure like listening to the radio and watching tv (typically done by men) but doesn’t consider talking on the phone as leisure (typically done by women). You also assume the point that women do more unpaid work compared to men’s paid work, which your source does not measure. Your source only measures unpaid work between men and women, like house work and taking care of the kids. Your source is not a comparative measure of paid work vs unpaid work between the sexes. So of course more women had more unpaid work, there are more stay at home moms then fathers. So way to go, you still look like an idiot.
Beneath The Surface (10 days ago)
2:14 Does not account for the type of education and the differences are still around 10%. It's not racial discrimination, it's someone majoring in IT or economics earning more than someone majoring in useless gender studies, ffs. This video did not include 1 minute of honest consideration, he has to push for his discrimination fetish wherever possible. And it starts of with the wage gap that, what a suprise, does not account for jobs done or hours worked. We've been saying this like a broken record and he doesn't understand what the wage gap is still. I will give him that at least he doesn't attribute all of it to the beloved discrimination.
Viper Cup (10 days ago)
this guy is an idiot
Tipp (11 days ago)
There's only a gap if you use the word average, say me and a male friend were in a room and I earn 40K and he earns 60K the average is 50K.. there are also 3 women the first earns 30K the second 50K and the third 70K the average is 40K, so to even things up we need another man so there will be 3 of each and in walks Bill Gates, now mean earn on average 100 million and the women still 40K, I'm not any better off neither is my friend but the men in the room earn on average 99.96 million more... that's the issue I have with using average most of the wealthiest business people are men and it skews the Average.
insert name (11 days ago)
Dont even have to watch the video the answer is no
Gunner_kek (11 days ago)
Has it ever occurred to people that men, ON AVERAGE, are simply more competent and/or more valuable workers than women? Oops i think i dropped a controversial opinion here....
Gunner_kek (10 days ago)
@__ just because it sounds sexist doesn't mean there can't be an element of truth in it.
__ (10 days ago)
Bruh that isn’t even a controversial opinion, that’s just plain sexism. Which is irrelevant if you want to have any kind of genuine discussion on the topic
のぢGrey (12 days ago)
Wow, the pay gap is such a sinister myth, because I assumed that the great divide was when comparing two people at the same career, same level, working the same hours, with everything identical but genitals. The conclusion is lifted from a broad survey with no scientific parameters? How misinformed and disingenuous...
Dan Neiswender (12 days ago)
Direct discrimination? Your stupidity is stunning. Epically stunning. Where are the lawsuits? It's against the law.
Liam Baldwin (14 days ago)
Not as bad as I expected
Corksucker (16 days ago)
It’s also illegal; if you are being payed less than the guy next to you because of your gender you can sue the shit out of the place you work.
Christopher Stanis (15 days ago)
Since the 1963 civil rights act but don't tell The BlahBrothers that or the women voters needed for his party. He went to women who are not employed to defend his whole position. Not realities of workforce life and ignored the fact that these are studies showing all jobs by all men and women in all fields compared to one another, so the studies actual show just that all jobs with all men and women divided into one lump sum divided by two based on gender. And in the high paying fields women go less into those fields like S.T.E.M. so more men means more likely to be in that field and for a longer time and probably overall putting in more hours, resulting in higher pay overall.
Chris Tapp (17 days ago)
Some of you links aren't working, just a heads up! I like your video and I think it's handled very well I just wish you would give more numbers on how much is based on discrimination of women or how it's proved other than the one study you cite in the video. Those with a lynx I were trying to find and could not get to work. Thanks for putting this video together
Apple Ciser (18 days ago)
I've said it before and I'll say it again, John Green is a national treasure.
Bleach Man (21 days ago)
I love how most people forget about the 1963 equal pay act
Christopher Stanis (15 days ago)
@dust storm Alright regulators have mounted up and passed bad judgement on you my brother, carry on sir.
dust storm (15 days ago)
@Christopher Stanis well I was making the point I think the gender pay gap is nonexistent and feminists are just trying to make stuff up so that the can have "equality" but really so they can be superior to men
Christopher Stanis (15 days ago)
@dust storm Or that statistics can't be lied about in a YouTube video, or news report. Let's get into, we both know you're not sure about your position.
dust storm (20 days ago)
Just because that says they can't pay less because they are women doesn't mean the employer cant make up another reason to pay them less
Tristen Harmon (22 days ago)
No it's not
kigman1980 (23 days ago)
So if I start a job at the same time as a woman with the same qualifications I am gonna make 20+ percent more than her because I’m a man...that’s discrimination right? So if women are protected by anti-discrimination laws, why aren’t there lawsuits on a personal level being filed hand over fist? Data is skewed because richest athletes, entertainers, and businessman/inventors are male. Pay gap my ass if you want
Unity&Diversity (23 days ago)
Women consent, no, they demand, to make less than their brothers and husbands.
Unity&Diversity (23 days ago)
Show me a man who takes by force what he wants from women and I'll show you 10 women who vote to take by force what they want from men. Show me a grave created by patriarchy and Ill show you an entire graveyard created by feminism/communism. "Any society that negates the role of the father in the voluntarily marriage contract from decent civilization buliding men and replaces it with a involuntary centralized welfare state will not remain civilized for long." Women don't let their kids vote in their house, But we let women vote in ours? Women like stupid "bad boys", Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. The West is doomed. Enjoy the decline...
Christopher Stanis (15 days ago)
@Kiwi712 _ Nah I'm around man, don't have a discord but I am willing to chat here with you even if it is tomorrow brother. But seriously please tell me to start off where has communism actually worked? I think you might see capitalism either being the money maker before the social program if you are suggesting the Nordic state argument, or how about even China had to adopt aspects of capitalism, making them a one party government that is to this day oppressive and still then a form of state capitalism. Either way capitalism is a economic system that does not kill but creates prosperity even for far left countries, it's the only thing that allows for success next to actual freedom which means personal responsibility. You are suggesting manipulation of the whole system from the government down to the free market and expect that a centralized system is infallible. I disagree and believe a truly free system of government is better since a controlled government with controlled capitalism leads to oppression like in China and how we see companies acting in America, they got the worst taste, the taste of power, something they can never earn without a collective body or deserve because of subversion of the whole system.
Kiwi712 _ (15 days ago)
Christopher Stanis Please god discord, let's discuss, Free market place of ideas, maybe tomorrow? Any time?
Kiwi712 _ (15 days ago)
Christopher Stanis As for you, Where has communism ever failed? Every single country it has ever been implemented in it has improved. And I would love to further discuss this in detail, Discord? I'm just in the mood for that.
Kiwi712 _ (15 days ago)
Unity&Diversity Firstly men don't choose to take on those responsibilities and neither do women, NO reputable studies have come to the conclusion that women have a natural pre disposition to not working, society influences them, Furthermore Free market capitalism has as I demonstrated killed hundreds of millions, and please don't say that wasn't real capitalism because that is what the right accuses the left of all the time. And regardless a number of Libertarian and near Anarcho Capitalist societies existed in the 19th century, in Central America where thousands starved as a result. As for your last statement it takes two to make a baby.
Unity&Diversity (23 days ago)
Meritocracy presupposes loyalty. Loyalty must be earned.
Christopher Kobs (26 days ago)
4:00-4:20 it’s illegal to ask if your married or have kids in an interview so I don’t see how this is true.
Christopher Stanis (15 days ago)
We should make it illegal to be paranoid but how do you house the criminally insane of 60 million plus democrats?
Renners (26 days ago)
Correlation and causation are not the same thing, are you aware of this? Large companies are now asking their employees to perform character trait/personality testing, or profiling if you will. What they are finding is that some personality types are being over represented in management positions, the ‘action takers’ and ‘thinkers’, and that hospitality/customer care positions over represented by ‘empathisers’ and ‘socialisers’, these types are respectively most represented by men then women, so maybe it’s not the simple fact of their sex causing these things but actual differences in how they approach the work force. If you don’t look into the reasons why people fill positions you are skipping a large area of consideration. Tell me, do you remember college, what did some boys want to do, make money, they would find out what paid the most and then do that, girls did not do this as often. Call it toxic masculinity of you want, but guys are in brutal competition with one an other to make the most, have the most, work the most, this just isn’t as common between women, boys are still told they have to be the bread winners, it’s bread into them, society places emphasis on a mans earning power much more than a womens. I’m in engineering, after years of study, my partner in data entry after no study, I earn 3x more than her, as it should be, regardless of our chromosomes.
Rattattattatt (27 days ago)
Why would a company pay a man more, when they could hire a woman for cheaper? What is the incentive there?
Kiwi712 _ (14 days ago)
@Christopher Stanis Firstly you still fail to describe to me why women don't go into these fields, because if what you are saying is true and women are more fulfilled being parents, well then this is an inequality to men. "What we are doing in society is encouraging people who are not ready to take care of kids to have kids while the rest float the bill, then women who are ready to have kids because they are successful in life to not have kids." Society doesn't influence this in the way you are thinking of. This is a sociological phenomenon that occurs and has occurred for all of history. Impoverished people have kids earlier and have more kids, wealthy people don't. This is because wealthy people are generally educated and are better with their financial situation, this isn't society. This is one of the most heavily studied social phenomenons and we know a huge amount about it. Take a look at the countries with the highest birth rates. India, China, Nigeria, countries with lower average incomes have higher birth rates. WE aren't telling unsuccessful women to have kids young, WE are trying to tell them not to. That is what I am arguing FOR. We should get women and men to stop settling down for low skill jobs early, and push them towards college and high level work. And the thing is, if they can't do that high leveled work, if they are just not intelligent or don't want to, then that is fine. Then they can work a low skill job and there is nothing wrong with that, but educated societies just do better, they are more productive. "Well maybe the left is but they always had a controlling mindset from slavery until now, still trying to control people." Really, from slavery until now, come on, so you are going to argue against every single reputable political scientist of the last 200 years. You are going to actually argue that the political switch didn't happen. I am going to assume you genuinely don't know stuff like, the political group known as the radical REPUBLICANS was one of the first SOCIALIST parties in America, and I am also going to assume you don't know that Lincoln traded letters with KARL MARX, after Karl Marx congratulated Lincoln on ending slavery. I am also going to assume that you don't know the terms liberal and conservative, left and right come from the French Revolution, where the Conservatives wanted to conserve the old way and supported the King and High Government Control, as the Liberals wanted to reduce it and start a Republic or Democracy. Liberal meaning valuing individual rights of man. Let me guess you also think Nazis were radical leftists.
Christopher Stanis (14 days ago)
@Kiwi712 _ I see movements for more women in S.T.E.M. yet they largely choose to not go into those fields, I say that because women are always influenced by the left to do things because they are simply being told to do so. People are advertised to all the time for things they don't need. Someone saying to women to consider the fact that having a family is just as fulfilling in life is something they should consider or maybe regret when they didn't even do anything like having eggs frozen, and then reaching menopause. I personally think a woman who is educated and has a career and having children later in life after both the man and woman are established is just economically more of a sound way to live life. And one or maybe even both of them should be raising their kids full time. What we are doing in society is encouraging people who are not ready to take care of kids to have kids while the rest float the bill, then women who are ready to have kids because they are successful in life to not have kids. This is backwards in every sense of running/influencing a society. The bigger problem is not fake stuff like free women not being able to make proper life choices but instead the encouragement of bad behavior, and the fact people should stop thinking like a group and more like an actual individual. No one is forcing anyone to do anything in society. Well maybe the left is but they always had a controlling mindset from slavery until now, still trying to control people.
Kiwi712 _ (14 days ago)
@Christopher Stanis That is the point, who cares if the man or the women is the breadwinner or homemaker, I want to make SURE that nothing in society is influencing their choices, and because factually and logically no studies have found that Women have anymore natural predisposition than men that means that something in Society is influencing them. Yes women are choosing to be parents instead of workers, but I would say that many kids who pick up their parents family business didn't want to, they did because they were pushed into it. She doesn't have to do anything, but the academic study of society has found there to be societal factors that influence women into not pursuing these fields.
Christopher Stanis (15 days ago)
@Kiwi712 _ So a woman who decides your idea is not what she wants, which is to have kids and not to go into the workforce and support fruitless far-left ideologies because you want to influence her ways. Is somehow not superior to your meaningless wants of her life and what she decides as a individual? She has to work and not have kids so you can have the proper statistics that fits your needs that will never be met? I mean still oppressed should be the slogan of the left. Even after success we're still oppressed. You know it's a matter of controlling people and not what they want for themselves. Yes women at some point have to have kids so who is suppose to have them your new grand champions the transgenders? Never going to happen at some point men and women have to have children, you act like this is a horrible thing when having children and being able to take care of them is the best feeling in the world. Who cares if the man or women is the homemaker or the breadwinner?
veritasuser (27 days ago)
john, thank you for this.
Yeet Esketit (30 days ago)
The only real evidence you cite which isn't an interview and actually controls for factors states that there is a ~4-8% gender wage gap, but just because there is unknown variance doesn't mean there is a gender wage gap. In order to do that, you would have to determine if that ~4-8% variance is significant. To do that, you would need some hypothesis testing; the null would be the groups means would be equal, and the alternative would be that the group means are different. For this, you could use a reasonable model (if your pay is roughly linear in factors, a linear model would be reasonable, otherwise might wanna look at non-parametric regression techniques) to determine a mean line controlling for factors for each of the sexes, estimate the variance of the data points from that mean line, estimate the variance between the mean line values at the data point x's and then use ANOVA/F-test to determine the significance. If the results of this show a real low p-val, then only you can conclude that there is pay discrimination. TL;DR there is a 4-8% gap, but you have to determine the significance (p-val) of this point in order to determine if it's caused by gender discrimination. You make real shitty videos.
Julian Beatty (29 days ago)
Or just say it's because of sexism. Stop trying to understand this.
Kifter (30 days ago)
the wage gap isnt real..
BanLiveExport (1 month ago)
94% of all work place deaths are men - This is the Gender Safety Gap Men work more hours on average - This is the Gender Hours Gap.
Christopher Stanis (11 days ago)
@wolfmancal the wolf Again making assumptions, we have plenty of safety regulations that make sense and no one is trying to get rid of them. Safety regulations do not mean men don't die on the job still, we are talking about comparisons to men and women, men work jobs that have a higher risk to them and get compensated for that. That is one factor that leads to men earning overall more than women when all full-time jobs are compared. Venezuela and California are just examples of over regulation and government control ruining the housing market, the economy, business growth and even sometimes having negative effects on the ecosystem. And finally yes the pay gap is just Marxist bullcrap to get votes, actually women are being lied to as most probably are getting paid the same but they all think they aren't.Women are not being oppressed by men, it has been illegal since 1963, take it to the courts like the rest of us would have to do.
Christopher Stanis (11 days ago)
​@wolfmancal the wolf Nah Apple and you are just making assumptions, both of you probably never worked manual labor like construction or in a factory. Continue to ruin California and countries like Venezuela, just leave the rest of us to govern ourselves.
Christopher Stanis (15 days ago)
@Apple Ciser Communist confirmed, can we get a deprogrammer in here, we found another useful idiot.
Apple Ciser (18 days ago)
When politicians says they want to "roll back regulations", often times these are the regulations they want to roll back, safety regulations. You're beef is with Laissez-faire capitalists, not anyone trying to close the pay gap.
Mrudul (1 month ago)
Funny how the left conflates responsibility with "unpaid work." Raising a child, household chores, and cooking are all a part of personal responsibility in the sense that these are the things individuals do for themselves and their own benefit whereas paid work is productive for society as a whole. If you are raising a child and cleaning your room not because you want to, but because you expect some reward in return, then you are not fit to be doing those things.
Ross Whitlock (1 month ago)
a decent and fair argument
flexmebaby (1 month ago)
You never mentioned the affect of temperament on pay rates. That's another factor.
Strigorvious Dregorous (26 days ago)
seems like it'd be over his head...
flexmebaby (1 month ago)
Why are 100% of the vlog brothers male???
Christopher Stanis (15 days ago)
@flexmebaby You ever notice leftist arguments are usually simplistic? Sorry I also meant to say against irony.
flexmebaby (1 month ago)
@FireNationGames Lol. You're sharp as a tack, aren't you?
FireNationGames (1 month ago)
because they are BROTHERS... read your question before asking it
Brocky 55 (1 month ago)
Here’s an illustration to help clear things up: Black people buy more fried chicken each year than white people do. And you’re saying “Look, it’s discrimination against whites because they aren’t receiving as much chicken as the blacks are! This must be changed!” You want equality of outcome (which is impossible to enforce), over equality of opportunity.
Brocky 55 (1 month ago)
Pay gap explained simply: Women work less hours at lower-paying jobs and have maternity leave. You’re looking at annual income rather than hourly, which is why you’re confused. If a woman is getting paid less per hour for the same job a man is getting paid more for, that is illegal and the case should be taken to court. But that pretty much never happens.
Christopher Stanis (15 days ago)
@FireNationGames Prove where people get paid less for just walking funny.
Brocky 55 (30 days ago)
@FireNationGames Depending on the business they might not give a worker raises if they don't show a good work ethic or potential, but you can't pay two people different wages for the same job in the corporate world.
FireNationGames (1 month ago)
sadly its not illegal because people can pay people less just because they "walk funny" or some other bs reason
Independence In Mind (1 month ago)
There is no gender pay gap. It’s illegal to pay someone less based on their gender. It’s been illegal for quite some time.
Christopher Stanis (15 days ago)
1963 civil rights act and yes you are right.
Fakta fakta (1 month ago)
do you have payed maternity leave in US?
MrLazyleader (1 month ago)
The notion "the 8% unexplained is due to sexism" is just the god of the gaps fallacy. Every time 1% more can be explained, crazy communists claim that the remaining % must be discrimination.
Prosper Asima (1 month ago)
First, the fact that 4%-8% of the gender pay gap remains unexplained after accounting for factors that can be attributed to personal career choices doesn't mean that percentage of it is primarily due to discrimination. There is no reason for anyone to merely slap the label of "sexist" on this for no reason other than "we can't find any other explanation for it." This argument isn't made any stronger by the fact that the person making it wrote some study on the gender pay gap. Second, choices women make are largely attributable to biological and psychological factors. It isn't primarily because of so called social pressures on women. Read up on the big five personality model and how it applies across cultures, even those who have done the most to treat the two genders equally. Third, yes, women do a disproportionate amount of unpaid labor. And men do a disproportionate amount of dangerous labor. As others pointed out, more than 90% of workplace deaths are men. Let's equalize that too, it's easy. Let's make sure more women become police officers, fire fighters, combat soldiers, etc. I have a feeling most women are not going to want to. Disparities between people and groups of people are the norm and have been the norm throughout the entire course of human history.
Rap Beef (1 month ago)
Men are 97% of combat fatalities. Men pay 97% of all Alimony. Men make 94% of workplace suicides. Men make up 93% of workplace fatalities. Men make up 81% of all war deaths. Men lose custody in 84% of divorces. 29% of male first-time offenders were sentenced to custody. For women, that figure was 17%. Men have a 62% chance of being bailed, while for women that figure is 80% and on average men serve 53% of their sentence but women serve 5% less than that 79% of all suicides are men. 77% of homicide victims are men. 89% of men will be the victim of at least one violent crime. Mens are way more prone to be homeless. Men are over twice as victimised by strangers than women. Boys face vastly more corporal punishment than girls Women's Cancers receive 15 times more funding than men's. At least 10% of fathers are victims of paternity fraud. One third of all fathers in the USA have lost custody of children, most are expected to pay for this. 40-70% of domestic violence is against men however less than 1% of domestic violence shelter spaces are for men. women do not have it worse than men
Dougie Quick (1 month ago)
I am a retired electrician ....some ass breaking work that VERY FEW women have historically been interested in (similar to other ass breaking trades) .... There are some pretty lucrative trades where it is NOT a case AT ALL that women are excluded from ...from my perspective? They just dont want to DO the shit ....there are NON ass breaking jobs that guess what? pay LESS....BIG surprise? I think NOW ...Ladies? You want more cash? Sign up for the ass breaking jobs and stop complaining
mtownescapeartist (1 month ago)
So companies should be paying women for their home responsibilities that have nothing to do with the company's productivity? I'm confused.
Jake Allen (1 month ago)
there is no pay gap prove me wrong if you are an idiot who believes in it.
Aaron Kottke (1 month ago)
Raising your brats and doing the dishes doesn’t count as work. Wait do we figure alimony and child support in this?
Julia Gundrum (1 month ago)
The average woman makes makes 77 cents for every dollar the average man makes. True A woman makes 77 cents to a man’s dollar for the exact same job/work. Lie
Rosenberg (1 month ago)
Guess economics weren't your major?.. Cause you spill out some pretty dumb shit.. xD
Maverick Hargrave (1 month ago)
Even if there is a gender gap, it's impossible to say that it is because of discrimination. Where's the evidence for that?
HingleMcCringleBerry (1 month ago)
somehow the logic goes. we can't explain this last 4-8%. therefore discrimination? I mean I think there's a possibility that it's there somewhere. but it could also be other things? likely a combination of other things. economics is extremely complex.
Jakov Fisel (1 month ago)
Omg.... again SJW. I knew it!
DYNAMIC (1 month ago)
WARNING: Comments are made by toxic manlets who never had a relationship with the opposite sex, blaming everyone else, and calling themselves the victims. all due to an emotionally founded bias, and inability to deal with the fact that their is a problem worth correcting, let alone simply helping their fellow humans.
neArac (1 month ago)
*Illusion 100*
Eugene Imbang (1 month ago)
He's actually right, probably except for calling the decision not to hire mothers "discrimination". Pay gap is actually real. It is the "discrimination" narrative that is at the least dubious and at the most inflated.
It depends what defines as a "Wage Gap" If we are talking about how Men tend to earn more money than Women, then yes the "Wage Gap" does exist, because Men and Women do not earn the same amount of money as each other BUT if we are saying that the "Wage Gap" is something that was deliberately caused by the "Patriarchy" and "Men's Privilege" and "Women's Oppression" and "Whatever Else", then no, the "Wage Gap" doesn't exist there, simply because it has been proven time and time again that that isn't the answer to the "Wage Gap".
macsnafu (1 month ago)
Well, at least you recognized the complexity of the issue, even if you seem far too willing to still say 'gender discrimination' for the apparent actual wage gap.
Cal Schutte (1 month ago)
I accept your answer.
star stuff (1 month ago)
This is the best, most concise video on the subject that I've seen. Kudos.
HH-G96 (1 month ago)
wage gap cannot be used as an inequality between gender. If a man and a woman worked the same job, position and hours they will get the same wage
Jacob Westerfield (1 month ago)
Wow he killed this shit. Nice. You explained it better than Jordan peterson
Anime and Manga (1 month ago)
If you work on the same job, same experience, same hours, same raises Both men and women get the same pay The wage gap doesn’t exist And btw if the wage gap exists, how come we still hire men?
Kurai Taiyo (1 month ago)
Their really isn't a pay gap. Just because women make choices for the family doesn't mean they should get paid more. It would be unfair to guys. Now a days it's worst everywhere else is worst. Let's say Their is no pay gap who will make the most? It would be most of the guys due to them working and the women making the choices or choose not to work. Now you have teachers and other women saying their is a pay gap. My PE teacher makes the same about each year as my math female teacher. So this is stupid -_-
Terry Knight (1 month ago)
You know what's funny? Black people go through crap just like women and females, and black people operate the same way women and females operate, the differences are that women and females use their gender and black people use their race, you get more sympathy and support for women and females than you do for black people, women and females get more support in addressing sexism than black people do in addressing racism, when women and females get mistreated verbally and/or physically or get killed they get more sympathy and support than black people who get mistreated verbally and/or physically or get killed, and women and females get away with more crap than black people, yet black people get called out more than women and females. Both black people and women & females have flaws, double standards, special treatment, free passes, and both black people and women & females play the victim, operate using PC crap, think the world owes them something, and black people use race as an excuse and/or an agenda whereas women and females use their gender as an excuse and/or an agenda, and sometimes black people get away with it, sometimes they don't, but whether or not they do they get more backlash for it than women and females, even though women and females get away with it WAY more. I say all of this to say that I think it's about time we call women and females out on their crap and punish them despite their gender and the fact that they are being "oppressed" if for no other reason than this, we always call black people out on their crap and punish them despite their race and the fact that they are being "oppressed." At the very least we should call women and females out on their crap and punish them AS MUCH AS we call black people out on their crap and punish them. Just thought I'd put that out there.
Fares Sdiri (1 month ago)
Male software engineers at Google are paid less than women in their field for doing the exact same job. That was confirmed by Google aswell. Also, do u expect to get paid for cleaning ur house? Or for feeding ur family? Unpaid work is real, I mean, who do u want to pay u? If the husband is supposed to pay the woman, then what's the point of a relationship? Also, the husband technically does pay the wife because he is the one providing her with what she wants. If she wants jewelery, he can buy her that, if she wants food, he will buy her that, the husband generally provides pretty much as compensation for lost money on unpaid work hours.
Geöffneten Tart (1 month ago)
If women r payd less then y are their still men withh jobs dum cuns👩👎
Monger Vanger (2 months ago)
where or how was this data gathered? I rake my leaves, mow the lawn, shovel my 50 feet driveway, repair my home, etc. I’ve never met a women that does any of this. Besides that. The dishes, cooking, trash and everything else.
Melanżwkuchni (2 months ago)
Women live several years longer than men.
Charlie Scott (2 months ago)
Women porn stars get paid more Just saying the wage gaps real
Tony Fiorino (2 months ago)
is it possible to get your references for this very informative video?
Timothy W (2 months ago)
"Unpaid work". What subject do you want to discuss? Do You want to talk about how adult couples split the household choirs, or do you want to talk about disparities in earnings between men and women?
Timothy W (2 months ago)
"Full time". Is a misleading category
道神恵 (2 months ago)
there is none
Bos La Moss (2 months ago)
There's discrimination and then there is illegal discrimination. If I have a man and a woman as two final candidates for a job, I have to decide and therefore discriminate between them. If the SOLE reason I hire the man is because he's a man and I think the woman will be worse solely because she is a woman, that would be illegal. However, if I hire the man because he has a year of experience, a more relevant degree and oh hell, let's just say he lives within 20 minutes and she lives an hour away, well, who would you hire?
exploding party hats (2 months ago)
no its not real
Mysunettingpoem (2 months ago)
Did the studies take into account what schools those people got their degrees at? A masters degree at Harvard is not equal to a masters at a community college.
Born Blazed (2 months ago)
women are more cowardly by nature and choose less dangerous work by a massive margin. thats why there paid less on average as they rarely get danger pay not to mention live longer since they make the men in there life do all the dangerous shit on there behalf. Women are also far more likely too join a pyramid scheme like an mlm than men hence the unpaid hours women seem to have gotten themselves into.
boson96 (2 months ago)
The remaining 4-8% is not necessarily due to sexism. Women often take more leaves than men, women don't negotiate salary as aggressively or ask for raises, they are not as competitive as men to ask for better projects, they tend to play safe when it comes to careers. Wage discrimination based on sex has been illegal for decades and the discrepancy we see in wages between the sexes is purely driven by market forces. After all, if companies were able to get away with paying women less for the same job, they would only hire women to maximise profit and minimise expenses/ The gender pay gap is just another figment of the imagination of new wave feminism in order to create a victim narrative for women and place them in the centre of it as an oppressed class, which ironically is the antithesis of what feminism ought to do.
Lucas Cavalcanti (2 months ago)
"Unexplained gap" is not literally unexplained, as many ppl on the comments seem to think. I'll explain: the pay gap is X. A significant part of X can be attributed to things like 1) the difference in choices of the jobs itself 2) the personal decisions (i.e women choose to work less paid hours than men due to different priorities) 3) education and so on. *In other words, part of the pay gap can be rationally *JUSTIFIED*, there is a rational reason for it. The other part of the pay gap that cannot be attributed to any logical factors is labeled as "unexplained" but it should actually be read as "not justifiable".* Therefore, it's LOGICALLY attributed to sexism. It's not unexplained in the sense of "we don't know", but unexplained in the sense of unjustifiable.
Lucas Cavalcanti (2 months ago)
@Denim Dan Well, I think it's not the same thing as the statement about God. I mean, the existence or non existence of God cannot be verifiable. Therefore, that is indeed a fallacy of ignorance, because in that example an assertion is made out of the impossibility of proving the contrary. However, the existence of a sexist-based difference in wages can be verifiable. I.e: We know there is a huge difference of wages between black and white people (larger than men-woman), that is fact. However, what we cannot say is that all of that difference is directly due to racism / *unjustified aversion to black people,* (from an objective perspective at least, since one could justify their racism with non factual beliefs). This is important. So, by investigating other causes to the wage gap (i.e white ppl are better educated and live closer to better jobs, which is to some extent a result of racism, but historically, so it doesn't mean the person hiring is racist, but rather that this advantage came from a period in the past), the appropriate percentage that is a direct result of racism can be obtained, approximately, from the subtraction of the other causes from the total gap. I know it might sound like a fallacy of ignorance, but don't think it is. That is because this case is more like the eletrons situation than the God one. We have never directly seen any electrons, but we still know they exist, and that is not a mere assumption. We can not directly measure them either, but we can get to their dimensions by measuring other parameters. I might be equivocated, if so I'd let me know.
Denim Dan (2 months ago)
This is literally a fallacy of ignorance. Just because it cannot be explained does not mean it is due to injustice. You cannot assume that just because it is unexplainable it automatically equates to sexism or some other Injustice. E.g. God does not exist because you cannot prove that he exist therefore he does not exist. God exist because you cannot prove that he does not exist therefore he exist.
Ieuan Hunt (2 months ago)
Gee it's almost as if the world is complicated.
DYNAMIC (1 month ago)
gee its almost as if this was a shitty attempt to justify or atleast ignore inequalities that happen to not affect you LMAO you probably play the victim card alot and then turn around and expose yourself as a self interested piece of shit xD nice bro
James Stanley (2 months ago)
hell a man is suppose to feed a family and pay the rent
casey winters (2 months ago)
Nice graphs. I know you are very progressive and biased so I stopped taking you serious long ago. But i do enjoy your non political content... well actually i like hanks biology stuff best but 🤷‍♂️ it’s all good
Harshit Madan (2 months ago)
If women want 0 gender wage gap, they should collectively stop having kids.
Anthony (2 months ago)
Wage Gap due to gender discrimination Doesn't exist
the real banana man (2 months ago)
No, it’s not, it’s not real.
Matthew Roeszler (3 months ago)
if women can get paid less (which is illegal) why don't they hire just women and have hundreds of thousands more profit?
Nic (3 months ago)
just have no moms and two dads lol
UndertaleSkeleBros (3 months ago)
the issue isnt that there isnt some disparity but its saying that that disparity is somehow sexist its not and heres why The earnings gap that appears is 1: not that big and 2: not sexist, the gender pay gap does not take into account allot of things such as langth of time working at said company, schooling gotten before employment, experience gotten before employment, hours worked(men on average work longer hours), vacation days taken, fighting for that higher wage, company you work for and all that leads to, yes men on average make more, but men on average tend to work longer hours in the week, taken less time off in the year, fight harder for pay incresses, work more dangrous jobs, and tend to be more likely to go for STEM fields in school women on average tend to work less hours then men, tend to take more time off then men especially is they are expecting parents, tend to be more compliant with fighting for higher wages, tend to work lower paying but generally safer jobs, and tend to CHOOSE not to go after stem degrees this all combined leads to men on average getting paid more, cause women and men make different choices in the life they choose to live it is not sexist
awesomedude123 Davis (3 months ago)
Also it is proven that women tend to take more time off and that means that they don't get as many paid hours as men
koda malamute (3 months ago)
You have a way better chance to get into a good college if ur a woman/ of color
Jer Bee (3 months ago)
Say it with me folks—Having a child (or children) is a choice. It is not something that gets forced into anyone regardless of whether or not there's familial/social pressure present in the scenario. IF you are not ready to have children, DO NOT HAVE children. IF you wanna focus on your career first before starting a family, FOCUS ON YOUR CAREER FIRST. People often leave out the concepts of agency and personal responsibility in these discussions, opting instead to focus on fabricated power structures that make it "impossible" for them to choose the option that they really want to choose. Also, with regards to the "saddling women up with most of the unpaid work", you would have to be some upper middle class or upper class person to even take into account gender roles when providing for your family. The fact of the matter is that whoever makes a larger hourly wage (or annual salary) HAS TO BE THE ONE who works while the other person in the relationship takes care of the kids. We do not have the luxury of picking and choosing who gets to work and who doesn't based on someone's gender because there are bills to pay and children to raise. IF you make more money than your partner and you are able to work, you should go work.
TUNUPDITING (3 months ago)
cant stand hearing this ass hole sim
Boneamps (3 months ago)
Answer to the title of the Video: No. The gender pay gap is not real. Learn probability and statistics (even the wikipedia article will do) and you'll understand.
carlindelco (3 months ago)
You mentioned something that is antithetical to family destroying the family structure me go out into the harsh environment and women stay home division of duties Everybody wins It will NEVER be even as long ans men are men working overtime and taking riskier jobs and women having babies and taking lower paying but an education that has longer shelf life then tech which go into more and stay continuously employed
Hefty Alan (3 months ago)
Reconciliation of gender pay gap = choice.
Bruce Lindman (3 months ago)
Sorry, continued fail. You still don't understand the pay gap. Full time is a considered to be just 35 hours per week. Unexplained <> discrimination. There is no pay gap. Keep trying....
Conquintzy (3 months ago)
What do you call a female rapper? 77 Cent
Chris Russell (8 days ago)
@Fares Sdiri The Black Man is 50 cents..
Dougie Quick (1 month ago)
One more obnoxious musician?
macsnafu (1 month ago)
That's *more* than Fitty Cent!
Fares Sdiri (1 month ago)
Hmmmmmmm, the man is 50 cent....hmmmmmmm.
Leigh C. (3 months ago)
Wage gap is not a myth but more nuanced and not just a result of sexism, chauvinism or the patriarchy. There is definitely a child penalty for women who choose to have kids. Also on average I think women feel less sure of themselves and therefore do not always seek higher positions or demand their fair market value as much as men.

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