In which John examines the complex and tangled question of the gender wage gap, and looks at some of the reasons why women who work full time are paid less than men who work full time.
The pay gap increases as workers age, and there is a pay gap across all education and experience levels and in almost all professions. Also, the pay gap is larger for women of color, across all education and experience levels: http://www.aauw.org/files/2015/02/The-Simple-Truth_Spring-2015.pdf
The size of the gender pay gap depends on how you calculate it, but discrimination is a big factor in the pay gap: http://blog.dol.gov/2012/06/07/myth-busting-the-pay-gap/ and http://www.jec.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/9118a9ef-0771-4777-9c1f-8232fe70a45c/compendium---sans-appendix.pdf
The gender wage gap for MBA graduates increases over time: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-20/the-real-cost-of-an-mba-is-different-for-men-and-women
Women's pay goes down on average relative to men once there are kids in a family; men's pay goes up. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-the-gender-pay-gap/2014/07/25/9e5cff34-fcd5-11e3-8176-f2c941cf35f1_story.html
A really interesting, nuanced interview with an economist who studies the gender pay gap: http://freakonomics.com/2016/01/07/the-true-story-of-the-gender-pay-gap-a-new-freakonomics-radio-podcast/
The wage gap won't close at this rate until 2056: http://www.iwpr.org/publications/pubs/the-gender-wage-gap-2012/
An analysis of the role race plays in the gender wage gap: http://www.aauw.org/research/the-simple-truth-about-the-gender-pay-gap/
The gender wage gap is 10 cents in New Zealand, and 37 cents in South Korea: http://www.oecd.org/gender/data/genderwagegap.htm
The exhaustive and at times exhausting wikipedia article about the gender wage gap: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_pay_gap_in_the_United_States
In the U.S. (and most countries), most unpaid work is done by women: http://www.oecd.org/gender/data/balancingpaidworkunpaidworkandleisure.htm
There's a pay gap among librarians, and male librarians are disproportionately likely to become directors: http://lj.libraryjournal.com/2014/07/careers/payday-lj-salary-survey-2014/#_ and http://www.ala.org/research/librarystaffstats/diversity/libdirectors
Great overall information (if a limited data set) from payscale: http://www.payscale.com/data-packages/gender-pay-gap/job-type
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Our society does not unilaterally construct gender.
You aknowledge divergencies in choice and then select sociological factors as the standalone influence which shapes human behaviour.
You're omitting factors, why? Politics? That isn't conducive to anyone's benefit, especially women.
Lets get this straight. The pay gap IS real,
but its not about discrimination.
For instance, you said men DON’T work more hours than women, but you are also counting the hours of unpaid “work” that women take part in WHICH REALLY ISN’T WORK!
So that lowers the amount of hours women work, since it really isn’t apart of any sort of job, meaning we are closer to the amount of money women “really deserve”.
Now lets get to the jobs that women tend to work in.
Women tend to work domestic service jobs, while men tend to work blue collar jobs. You can go ahead and take an easy guess as to which one pays more.
First of all, the average annual salary statistics between male and females don’t even take into account the hours worked or jobs/positions worked in the first place, so there is no point in assuming any of that.
Every time someone makes an argument about the pay gap being based on discrimination, they miss one or two facts about the statistics and it completely invalidates what they are saying.
You could also say “well it doesn’t help that social norms exist so that explains why women work so many ‘unpaid work hours’”, but clearly if people cared so much about social norms in the first place they would be gone by now. Once people realize a social norm isn’t, well, normal, then it is no longer a norm. Simple stuff people. The pay gap is based on life choices, not discrimination.
No one ever seems to consider that women's sexual options don't correlate much with the money they earn, whereas a man's sexual options strongly correlates to how much money he earns.
Maybe that is a driver of motivation or lack there of.
who is suppossed to pay for this work
why would anyone expect to be payed for work they do for themselves. This is the sense of entitlement behind wage gap protests. It is a protest against personal responsibility.
the pay gap is not a complex question. A simple statistic of a multivar analysis can do it. Its not a fuzzy issue.
every single factor added to this analysis shrinks the divide.
factoring in personality specifically agreeability (likelyhood to ask for raise) shrinks it to almost zero.
There is debate over whether the difference in agreeability is natural or societal, but even if it is societal the blame falls squarely on parents (possibly public schools), NOT employers.
You wanted not to stir up debate, but all the people in the comments have been indoctrinated to not believe evidence and proof if it doesn't line up with what they want.
I also like how many of them are completely misrepresenting some of your arguments, like the one about the disproportionate amount of household work based on stereotypical gender roles.
The comments on this video are trash, and proof of why we need more education.
I’m sorry, you’re a very bright man and very educational but anything controversial you should just stay out of to save your reputation. You’re only stirring up drama and feeding the fire. I’m sorry but there will always be a pay gap. You do a good job at trying to be unbiased but everyone will see bias in something so complicated and controversial. You do a good job at explaining your views but for a man of your caliber I’m saddened to hear this from you. go look at a construction site, I can guarantee that there isn’t a single woman there, and if there is, she’s the architect. And when a woman enters a field that is dominated by men, yes they’re paid less because the quality of work isn’t expected to be as good. But the same works the other way around, a man is usually worse in the veterinarian field. This field is dominated by women and when men enter this field they are usually paid less because the quality of work is expected to be less of that than a woman’s.
You established that women make choices that take time way from work, especially if they have families. Yet when it comes to being hired less or hired for lower paying jobs you ignore what you already established and assume that the employers choices are made out of discrimination 5:22 against woman and mothers created by "our social order and how we *construct* gender." Considering that it's so natural to see women as the victim when the causes of the gaps aren't clear, isn't that evidence of "systemic bias" in favor of women.
Then I have a question. Mentioned was the unpaid labor that women do. I thought having children was their choice, so now they need money for their choices? Also, if women were to get paid for that labor and the man does half wouldn't mean he still would be paid more? Just using the feminist logic. He would need to get paid as well. Equality.
weather the pay gap is real or not depends on how you define it. if you say that women are paid less for the same job for the same hours, that is wrong. If you say that the pay gap is just the difference in overall earnings between men and women, then it does exist.
You say women do unpaid work, but you're really not considering the fact that a stay at home wife has access to the wages the working husband makes. So if you take into account that a family mans wages is to be split between a number of people, with the line of logic you're taking here we could also argue that men don't really make as much as you're saying they do because they're supporting a number of different people with it. It only seems fair to mention this if you want to put so much emphasis on 'unpaid' work even though they have access to the wages their partners earn and spend a lot of it on clothes, make-up and other female products..
I don't consider helping at home as an "unpaid job". Do you expect a man paying his wife or a woman paying her husband hourly for cleaning or cooking??? This is sick. And btw i've witnessed more discrimination against men than women. The wage gap is due to personal choices. And i think more women choose happiness over money and pursus the career they find more compatible with them. If you want the same pay checks try more communism where most of workers get the same salary hhh
Employers will pay employees what they will accept. In a lot of cases, especially on the higher salaried end, these negotiations for pay are done on an individual basis and can vary widely. It may be the case that if you are a woman, that you are at a disadvantage because of an expectation of what you will take, how you approach the negotiation, what you expect as a result, etc.
But my point isn't to say, "it's your own fault for not negotiating higher pay." On the contrary, what I'm saying is that this problem is more broad than gender or race. The fact that we can see this problem appear statistically when looking at gender or race is just an indicator of something deeper: the problem is a system that doesn't require standards.
jesus John...you sure go down A LOT of faulty rabbit holes in this video....why even do this? Let's sum it up this way: making videos about the gender pay gap...which is arguably an all-together false concept, since the only thing the concept is useful for is creating an unsolvable problem that likely doesn't exist..... is COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.
Doesn't that unpaid work increase include the housewives? Because there are still many more women who are full-time caregivers than men, and that may distort the numbers. Plus - if a woman DOES work fewer hours than her husband, it would only make sense for them to do more housework etc.
It gets to be a chicken & egg thing - and you're assuming only one causality.
its not discrimination, or unexplained. Its the way men and women negotiate and how they act. Men are more assertive and aggressive, so they're more likely to ask for more money, and be more competitive. + they work better paid jobs / harder jobs
In the United States the wage gap is not real. The truth is the wage gap was not a true factual experiment. They used simple statistics that is the first thing you find when looking it up on google. After Obama said that women are pushed out of a quarter of their pay, the stupid theory got started again.
Yes, gender pay gap exists because of multiple reasons, among these are college professional educational personal choices, lifestyle decisions, working hours, devotion to their careers, family responsibilities...direct discrimination isn’t one of them, otherwise employers would have been sued, plus, earring more doesn’t mean happier as men in general work way more hours in way more laborious dangerous jobs, can you just stop pandering feminists, I saw it in many of your videos both in vlogbrothers and in crash course, it’s purely stupid
You'll also have to account for location and conditions ie.
- The cost-of-living can vary significantly by location and that often impacts wages.
- A person willing to move/commute long distances (to where their skillset is in greater demand) will rightfully get paid more for working the same job/hours.
It is an earnings gap not a wage gap. If there is a wage gap, ie different pay rates for identical people in identical jobs, then it is being implemented by people in HR departments. The majority of people in HR departments are female. Why would these gender traitors disadvantage women?
Women earn less because of differences in choices, not sexism.
Your description mentions that full time women earn less than full time women but forget to mention that:
25% of men and 14% of women work 41+ hours a week (overtime).
5.8% and 2.5% of women work 60+ hours a week.
12% of men and 25% of women work part time. Women in part-time (under 35) earn more money by 10%. Women earned the most in the 35-39 range of 11%. 10% of women and 4% of men work in this hour slot.
The average weekly salary of part time workers is between 230 and 250 dollars. Whereas overtime workers earn 1100 dollars approximately on average. A 5x disparity in earnings.
The Fair Labour Standards Act requires employees to pay their workers 1.5x the usual rate if they work overtime.
Marital Status also affects the gender pay gap. Women who have never had kids or been married and earned a college degree earn 17% more than of the same description by the age of 40-64 according to the Bureau of Labour Statistics (2001).
Single, childless women in their 20s earn more than their male counterparts located in central cities by 3% according to the US Census Bureau of 2010 IPUMS.
Never married childless women regardless of age, race or location earn 6% less than men of the same description: US Bureau of Labour Statistics.
He's too scared to admit that the gender pay gap is a joke. Channels like this are so afraid to actually have a proper argument so they have to pander to their silly audience. It's too complex to say that men earn more than women because of discrimination. If it were true, then companies would only want to hire women. I'm sure if they did a study solely focusing on different male segments they would be able to draw all sorts of conclusions of discrimination on that as well. The truth is, it's 3rd wave feminist garbage who are pushing this nonsense.
All I know is this past Monday on my day off I went to 5 stores looking for basic crap I don't need and in each store I went into I was the the only male shopper!! I mean it was like 11am and nothing but women in all these stores. The only men I saw where senior citizens being dragged by their wives. Not all the women had kids with them too and most were young looking. I felt like I was in a twilight zone episode.
You then throw the big number of $241M/year due to (unproven) discrimination. Assuming this is actually true, that's about $1.50 per person affected. Is that worth all this moaning? Tell you what I'll give the nearest women to me $1.50 then you all can shut the hell up.
The reason employers paid women with children less money is because they know, on average, that working moms need more time to deal with things like dropping off and picking up the kids, sick kids, school commitments, etc. Fathers tend to stay focused on their careers and mothers are expected to take care of the home and children even if they are working.
Wanna win the gender pay gap debate quickly? Tell them this: Those calling for discrimination due to gender imply patriarchal forces in the work-place due to structures in our society. Well, what if we moved the sample-size of men and women from the system by studying the gender pay gap between man and women working as self-employed in the same sectors instead? Their salaries would thus only become a reflection of their productivity. Well, its been done, and the study (done in Germany) indicates that the gender pay gap ironically INCREASES once you factor out the so-called patriarchal forces of the work-environments (ie. study of genders working as independents/self-employed)
The people advocating for massive institutional discrimination which must by all necessary means be dealt with are simple SOCIAL MARXIST IDEOLOGUES. Its dangerous, and should not be at the forefront of Western politics as they are today. Post-modernism and the deconstruction of bloody EVERYTHING is cancer!
This makes it sound like men purposefully discriminate against women and minorities. It simply isn't true. We hire the best people for the job. Why are you trying to factor in non-work activites? I don't understand this? So if someone spends work outside the home caring for family then their job should pay them more for this? Why? it's totally unrelated? What if men spend more time at charity events...Should we receive credit for that? Nope. Totally irrelevant. Men place more emphasis on work and dedicate more time to it on a whole. Therefore...they are rewarded more at work for it. So what? It's not that complicated. Discrimination against mothers????? What? No. It's not discrimination. If they want to spend their waking hours as a mother that's great, why should a job reward them for being away from work? It would be discrimination these people were paid the same for LESS work, which is what happens normally when WOmen have children.
I agree their is a wage gap. But i believe a very small percent is actually discrimination. Also it makes sense an employer wouldn’t pay a mother as much as a man without kids, the mother has to take care of her kids and may ask for more time off, that costs the employer time and money he’d rather not deal with, its easier to higher someone without kids, male or female, that can work more and will be less likely to ask for leave.
No you're wrong: men do on average work more hours. You're right that there is a gender pay gap, but it's because of one simple thing: men on average work more hours. Why do men work more? One simple answer: maternity. Woman on average are more likely to stay home cause of children.
When you talked about the female lawyers who have children not getting as much job offers did you ever stop to think the reason why is because they have children. Meaning people who don't have children are more likely to work longer and be more readily available when needed. Because that might explain a lot about that certain statistic.
Yes i support gender gap... Why?
Because there are no perks given to male..
Society don't care about men.
Male don't get unconditional love.
Male work with focus.. They don't waste there time in painting their stupid nails..
Well a dollar is still a dollar.I can account for the wage gap.
To the women who want to close the wage gap,
1. Women need to try to push for jobs typically as a "men's field of work", including construction, engineering and technical industry jobs. These jobs are more dangerous, and tiring, but pay more.
2. Push your physical limits. Even if all employees make the same amount, working overtime can get you more money. It is tiring, but well worth it.
3. Be more assertive for a raise. If you feel you deserve a more reasonable wage, speak up. All peoples, female or male, should speak out when things are unreasonable. It does not pay keep silent in some cases.
i believe the discussion on wheter the gender wage gap exist is over. At this point, it is very clear it really does exist and is probematic. The discussion we should be having how to correctly solve it, which is a step ahead in the discussion.
Wrong again. Is yoga "unpaid work"? No, just like spending time with children; it's an activity many women *CHOOSE* to do.
The "unexplained" paid gap is not discrimination, that's why it's called "unexplained". One reason could be that women choose to not work extra hours, another is that they don't want to take positions with more responsibility, and another is that they tend to not push for higher salaries.
There are many possible expalanations, that 4%-8% isn't necessarily *ALL* discrimination.
Geez. So disappointed.
I love the stuffy sweaty locker room smell of agitated meninists in this comment section. Grow up boys, it’s time to leave that childish invertebrate shell. For the love of all that is good, don’t let yourselves become angry incels.
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Many angels laid siege to Hell to rescue Dean, but it was Castiel who ultimately pulled Dean out. According to Castiel, he did so "Because God commanded it." His hand print was burned into Deans left shoulder. Castiel is amongst a group of angels who manifest on Earth to stop the breaking of the the 66 Seals which will release Lucifer and start the Apocalypse. Over time he develops an empathy for the Winchesters, in particular Dean. When he learns that Michael actually intends for Lucifer to be released so he can kill him, Castiel tries to warn Dean, but is punished. Ultimately he breaks allegiance with Heaven to side with humanity.
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